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Mat Ishbia’s path to Michigan State started with one open gym and a leadership moment from Mateen Cleaves.

After competing against Ishbia, Cleaves could’ve walked away. Instead, he introduced himself, encouraged him, and told Coach Izzo, “You’re the kind of guy we want here.”

A great reminder for coaches and leaders: how you treat the person who has nothing to offer you in that moment can change the course of their life.

Leadership is noticing people, giving them an opportunity, and using your influence to open doors.
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New episode 🎙️

Mat Ishbia joins the podcast to talk about his journey from Michigan State basketball to becoming owner of the Phoenix Suns and Phoenix Mercury.

We dive into leadership, culture, loyalty, role acceptance, accountability, and what it takes to build winning teams.

A lot of great lessons in this one for coaches, athletes, and leaders.

🎧 Listen now: open.spotify.com/episode/711kVO…