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Redlich Professor at Stanford University • Chief of @StanfordPain • Physician-scientist focused on patient-centered pain, neuroscience, and outcomes research
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This quote came from an interview, likely on the Huberman Lab Podcast (hubermanlab.com/episode/dr-sea…), where I was discussing the science of pain. Taken out of context, I understand it sounded dismissive or upsetting. We’ll do better to provide full context in the future.

Pain isn’t just signals from the body — those are nociception. Pain is how your brain interprets those signals. It’s a subjective, whole-person experience — and that’s what we treat.

In that interview, I explained the complexity of pain: how it begins as signals in the body, is shaped by processing in the spinal cord, and ultimately becomes the experience of pain in the brain.

Why does this matter? Because our treatments target different parts of this system. Take shoulder pain, for example:

NSAIDs (like ibuprofen or naproxen) act on inflammation in the shoulder, but also alter signaling in the spinal cord and brain.

Duloxetine, an FDA-approved treatment for some pain conditions, mainly affects the brain and brainstem.

Opioids do not act directly in the shoulder — they target spinal cord and brain circuits that process pain.

This framework also applies to physical rehabilitation, mind-body treatments, procedures, and more. The most effective approach often combines multiple treatments tailored to the person.

Understanding pain pathways is essential to developing safer, more effective treatments. That’s what drives our work. Our mission is to reduce pain and its impact — together, with you.
www.hubermanlab.com Dr. Sean Mackey: Tools to Reduce & Manage Pain Dr. Sean Mackey: we discuss what pain is at the level of the body and mind, pain thresholds, and the various causes of pain.
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“What goes on in your shoulder is not pain – that’s nociception. Those are electrical signals, electrochemical impulses being transmitted and that is to be distinguished from the subjective experience of pain that you have.” – @DrSeanMackey
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Did you know you can look up any physician to see if they've received payments from drug or medical device companies? The site is "Open Payments" (openpaymentsdata.cms.gov). It collects and publishes data on financial relationships between these companies and healthcare professionals, including payments for research, meals, travel, gifts, or speaking fees.

When controversy around opioids and pharmaceutical industry relationships arose over a decade ago, I chose to stop all consulting and financial relationships. As a result, my Open Payments reporting remains at $0 (see attached report).

I mention this because occasionally my opinions prompt accusations that I am financially influenced by industry entities. To clarify: I'm salaried by Stanford University, and I receive no additional personal compensation from federal research grants—they support research staff and project costs at Stanford.

Importantly, my decision isn't a critique of those who do engage in industry relationships. These collaborations can be valuable, helping to make products safer and more effective. I simply made a personal choice to avoid financial ties altogether.