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CEO and co-founder @SL5TaskForce | prev. founder & RL at TGT @MIRIBerkeley, @MATSProgram Mentor. AI Security | Secure Datacenters | Neurotech | Technofuturist
San Francisco Joined October 2020
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Lisa Thiergart Verified account @LisaThiergart
I went on the information's AI Deep Dive podcast and talked about SL5! Thank you for having me @rocketalignment and @theinformation! It's time for the industry to build SL5! Logical controls by spring 2027, and then physical controls! Lfg!

First time doing something like this, apart from 1-2 misspeaks pretty happy with how it turned out! This was recorded 2w ago note for that time I say 'this week'.
The Information @theinformation 5d
🚀 AI Deep Dive Episode 9: Can AI Data Centers Contain Advanced AI?

AI labs face threats from spies, stolen model weights and increasingly capable systems that could turn against their own infrastructure.

@rocketalignment speaks with @LisaThiergart, co-founder and CEO of @SL5TaskForce, about distillation, rogue AI agents and the extraordinary security measures needed to contain frontier models.

Chapters:
00:00 Intro
02:00 Espionage and insider threats at AI labs
07:55 What is Security Level Five?
11:25 Model theft and distillation
19:46 Securing models before deployment
24:01 When AI becomes the insider threat
27:29 Neocloud security and rogue agents
32:27 Building a secure AI data center
45:26 Can encryption protect AI infrastructure?
53:57 Open models, alignment and existential risk
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Lisa Thiergart Verified account @LisaThiergart
Please add a carve out for security coordination too! It’s not serving the public that this is currently so hard!
Rob Wiblin Verified account @robertwiblin 3d
Holy moly:

California (or another state) could overrule Sherman Act Anti-trust rules and permit the AI companies to coordinate to set industry wide safety standards and hold back releases until they're met!

justsecurity.org/158956/any-sta…
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Lisa Thiergart Verified account @LisaThiergart
The SL5 Team and I are hosting SL5Con this December! This is the top conference in the world for ambitious frontier security - with an emphasis on practical approaches that bring AI infra to nation state security in the next 6-24mo. Small (<100), invite-only, apply now!
Security Level 5 Verified account @SL5TaskForce 4d
Join us for SL5Con on December 4th in Downtown San Francisco!

We’re hosting a one-day conference on nation-state security for AI, bringing together people from across the AI security space who are working on its hardest problems. It’ll be a day of panel discussions, talks and presentations, networking opportunities, and demos. Keep an eye out for our speaker lineup and programming.

Apply now at sl5con.sl5.org to secure your spot. The application takes less than 5 minutes and we encourage anyone working in or adjacent to AI security to apply.
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Lisa Thiergart Verified account @LisaThiergart
I'm kind of surprised some Berkeley AI safety groups consider the 2x METR report such a big update. This feels pretty inline with what I have been predicting for the past 2 years and why I chose to work on security. Maybe they relied too heavily on AIFP's forecasting and didn't spend enough time in SF talking to people