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SEASON REVIEW:
I think if youโre a WandaVision / Wanda Maximoff fan and walking into this show already attached to certain characters, you should love #VisionQuest. It has a lot of that showโs vibe but in its own distinct way and provides a great service to the Maximoff family at large. I personally donโt have that same attachment to those characters with the exception of the one who was dead (at the time), so my experience was a bit more hot and cold as I came in purely as someone looking forward to some great television.
While Paul Bettany is undoubtedly an engaging actor and delivers one of the best performances in MCU history imo in the penultimate episode, Iโve never particularly found Vision to be all that interesting of a character to carry his own show by himself. His arc of self discovery and exploring grief does have its poignant moments especially in the penultimate, but having it stretched out to 8 episodes when thatโs the only thing about this character thatโs remotely interesting doesnโt help Vision all that much imo. Similarly, James Spader is an absolute delight and I love how much fun heโs having in the role, but I donโt quite love how Ultron is handled here either considering heโs probably my favorite MCU villain ever before this show. Retconning the character being the result of Tony Starkโs accumulative grief and fears thus causing him to be a dark reflection of Starkโฆ to now him just being naturally evil because heโs an imprint of his corrupt Avatar is kinda baffling and takes away so much of the characterโs nuance imo.
For me, it doesnโt really get much better for the support characters either. With the exception of JoCasta who I found to be atleast a smidgeon interesting in her internal conflict of being completely aware that sheโs an artificial ghost of a dead woman, all the rest of the AIs fell extremely flat for me. FRIDAY and EDITH (the only support AIs that I can assume weโre supposed to care about) feel very one note yet constantly demands an emotional response from the viewer in a way that never really feels earned. Iโm just now meeting FRIDAY for the first time ever and before sheโs even stabilized herself as an actual character, the writers are asking me to empathize with her traumas in Endgame. Itโs like if you turned Capโs shield or Mjolnir into actual people and then immediately expected me to care about their emotional state during their movies. The drama in this, and really most of this show, feels extremely yet unironically artificial.
The only characters I desperately wanted more of were probably Tommy and Lisa as they seemed to have the most potential both internally and narratively. The premise of being an orphan with memories implanted into your mind that are both yours and technically not yet something to desperately latch onto all the same is very compelling and capable of leading a show on its own, yet that seems to be the one plot that is absent for most of the show. Tommy becomes more of a device than someone grappling with his own issues relatively fast, as his main functions throughout the story are either him rescuing Vision from being kidnapped or vice versa. Over and over and over again. From beginning to end, and it gets kinda stale.
Despite all of that however, a compliment that I can absolutely give this show is its brilliant use of visual storytelling. This show just looks stunning and itโs typically done with a well defined purpose of evoking multifaceted ideas and emotions earnestly, most commonly that of isolation. This is a show that undoubtedly has a lot on its mind, and I can respect Marvel a lot for that.
I just personally wish that these fascinating ideas were attached to characters that I could gravitate towards more.
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I think if youโre a WandaVision / Wanda Maximoff fan and walking into this show already attached to certain characters, you should love #VisionQuest. It has a lot of that showโs vibe but in its own distinct way and provides a great service to the Maximoff family at large. I personally donโt have that same attachment to those characters with the exception of the one who was dead (at the time), so my experience was a bit more hot and cold as I came in purely as someone looking forward to some great television.
While Paul Bettany is undoubtedly an engaging actor and delivers one of the best performances in MCU history imo in the penultimate episode, Iโve never particularly found Vision to be all that interesting of a character to carry his own show by himself. His arc of self discovery and exploring grief does have its poignant moments especially in the penultimate, but having it stretched out to 8 episodes when thatโs the only thing about this character thatโs remotely interesting doesnโt help Vision all that much imo. Similarly, James Spader is an absolute delight and I love how much fun heโs having in the role, but I donโt quite love how Ultron is handled here either considering heโs probably my favorite MCU villain ever before this show. Retconning the character being the result of Tony Starkโs accumulative grief and fears thus causing him to be a dark reflection of Starkโฆ to now him just being naturally evil because heโs an imprint of his corrupt Avatar is kinda baffling and takes away so much of the characterโs nuance imo.
For me, it doesnโt really get much better for the support characters either. With the exception of JoCasta who I found to be atleast a smidgeon interesting in her internal conflict of being completely aware that sheโs an artificial ghost of a dead woman, all the rest of the AIs fell extremely flat for me. FRIDAY and EDITH (the only support AIs that I can assume weโre supposed to care about) feel very one note yet constantly demands an emotional response from the viewer in a way that never really feels earned. Iโm just now meeting FRIDAY for the first time ever and before sheโs even stabilized herself as an actual character, the writers are asking me to empathize with her traumas in Endgame. Itโs like if you turned Capโs shield or Mjolnir into actual people and then immediately expected me to care about their emotional state during their movies. The drama in this, and really most of this show, feels extremely yet unironically artificial.
The only characters I desperately wanted more of were probably Tommy and Lisa as they seemed to have the most potential both internally and narratively. The premise of being an orphan with memories implanted into your mind that are both yours and technically not yet something to desperately latch onto all the same is very compelling and capable of leading a show on its own, yet that seems to be the one plot that is absent for most of the show. Tommy becomes more of a device than someone grappling with his own issues relatively fast, as his main functions throughout the story are either him rescuing Vision from being kidnapped or vice versa. Over and over and over again. From beginning to end, and it gets kinda stale.
Despite all of that however, a compliment that I can absolutely give this show is its brilliant use of visual storytelling. This show just looks stunning and itโs typically done with a well defined purpose of evoking multifaceted ideas and emotions earnestly, most commonly that of isolation. This is a show that undoubtedly has a lot on its mind, and I can respect Marvel a lot for that.
I just personally wish that these fascinating ideas were attached to characters that I could gravitate towards more.
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Aside from the funny obvious bit of Jeremyโs meemaw not liking lgbt and demons meaning this sequel isnโt gonna happen regardless, this is honestly just such a shitty thing to say and a horrible show of character on Lawrenceโs part.
Like, brother, you were trying to make a sequel to a movie that came out TWO DECADES AGO. A movie with a horrid critics score and a divided audience score, and offered less than a 100M profit.
Yeah, the new studio wasnโt going to stop everything they were doing in the midst of building a new universe just to get your American Constantine movie off the ground๐ญ.
Like, brother, you were trying to make a sequel to a movie that came out TWO DECADES AGO. A movie with a horrid critics score and a divided audience score, and offered less than a 100M profit.
Yeah, the new studio wasnโt going to stop everything they were doing in the midst of building a new universe just to get your American Constantine movie off the ground๐ญ.
Francis Lawrence says he is โmore hopefulโ that โCONSTANTINE 2โ will happen now that James Gunn & Peter Safran have left DC Studios.View quoted post on X
โNot that I want anybody to lose their jobsโฆ We have a script, weโve been wanting to make it, and the people that were at DC were an impediment to us making it.
So, we are now more hopeful as of yesterdayโs news that maybe now there will be another opportunity.โ
(Source: collider.com/constantine-2-โฆ)
If you laugh, youโre going to hellโฆ.
Yeah I canโt do it yโall. Sorry.
I had an entire thread wrote up, but it just felt so disingenuous especially as more news came out that just made me more bitter about the whole ordeal. So I deleted it.
I still think Man of Tomorrow can be an amazing movie and a great last hoorah for Gunnโs extremely short lived era at DC, but it likely wonโt reach the potential it couldโve had. If the future of the DCU is being dismantled after this, Latcham is likely gonna butcher a lot of MoT in the editing bay to remove any loose threads or just anything else that doesnโt match his or more truthfully Ellisonโs โtasteโ.
While actors may stick around, there likely wonโt be a DC Universe. The studioโs best hope is if Jeremy Latcham can actually assemble a team of filmmakers to create standalone movies about these larger characters like he supposedly plans to do, and even thatโs not a guaranteed as I seriously doubt that thereโs a ton of filmmakers lining up to make movies for Ellisonโs new company considering both the toxic work environment heโs already created and the extensive budget cuts theyโd have to work with considering all the lawsuits. That isnโt really ideal for any creative team and may push them to seek other production houses (similar to Nolan abandoning WB).
The best BEST case scenario: Skydance just sells DC to help pay off Ellisonโs massive debt.
I had an entire thread wrote up, but it just felt so disingenuous especially as more news came out that just made me more bitter about the whole ordeal. So I deleted it.
I still think Man of Tomorrow can be an amazing movie and a great last hoorah for Gunnโs extremely short lived era at DC, but it likely wonโt reach the potential it couldโve had. If the future of the DCU is being dismantled after this, Latcham is likely gonna butcher a lot of MoT in the editing bay to remove any loose threads or just anything else that doesnโt match his or more truthfully Ellisonโs โtasteโ.
While actors may stick around, there likely wonโt be a DC Universe. The studioโs best hope is if Jeremy Latcham can actually assemble a team of filmmakers to create standalone movies about these larger characters like he supposedly plans to do, and even thatโs not a guaranteed as I seriously doubt that thereโs a ton of filmmakers lining up to make movies for Ellisonโs new company considering both the toxic work environment heโs already created and the extensive budget cuts theyโd have to work with considering all the lawsuits. That isnโt really ideal for any creative team and may push them to seek other production houses (similar to Nolan abandoning WB).
The best BEST case scenario: Skydance just sells DC to help pay off Ellisonโs massive debt.
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I went back to read this, and I do recognize how a lot of this thread comes across as really doompost-y. That wasnโt really my intent nor do I entirely regret it because I do feel really bad about this whole situation, but sheer doomposting isnโt necessarily my style. Iโll try to make a part 2 to this thread that can perhaps be a bit more optimistic and offer some shimmer of hope for DC fans. Just need some time.View quoted post on X