John Doe

Joe Murgia Verified account @TheUfoJoe · Dec 12, 2024

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"The UFO phenomenon is actually a staggering cosmic put-on: a joke perpetrated by invisible entities who have always delighted in frightening, confusing and misleading the human race."

Drones, Partisanship, Motherships, Mimicry and Keel

(Partial transcript from Cuomo's show last night with the full video below. My comments are in parenthesis.)

"No indication at this time that it's a foreign adversary or a foreign actor. The FBI is looking at this, DOJ is looking at this. I know the Department of Defense... I can't tell you, definitively, exactly what we're talking about here. In some cases, the investigation has led to a revelation that it's actually manned aircraft and not drones at all."

~John Kirby - White House National Security Communications Advisor

(Manned? Well, I'm going to make a safe assumption and say that he didn't mean they are "manned" by Grey aliens. Is he suggesting that these were conventional, manned aircraft misidentified as drones? Be on the look out for that conclusion. And also be on the look out for these drones and this story to just disappear like it has in other similar cases over the last few years. Poof! Gone. And people will move on until the next flap.)

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"[Kirby] mentioned foreign adversary because a member of Congress said that high sources in the government told him they may be from Iran. Now, everyone I spoke to today: Drones with that kind of range that weren't launched from nearby? Doubtful." ~@ChrisCuomo

"I'm on the Transportation Committee, on the Aviation Subcommittee, and I've gotten to know people. And from very high sources, very qualified sources, very responsible sources... I'm going to tell you… Iran launched a mothership probably about a month ago that contains these drones. That mothership is off the east coast of the United States of America. They've launched drones into everything that we can see or hear. These are from high sources. I don't say this lightly." ~@Congressman_JVD via Fox News and BBC

"There is no truth to that. There is no Iranian ship off the coast of the United States, and there's no so-called mothership launching drones towards the United States." And, "these are not U.S. military drones." ~Sabrina Singh - @DepPentPressSec

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@RepLuna: "Look, it's unacceptable, and for them to undermine Representative Van Drew's credibility in saying that he's talking to people that he does believe that these are drones from other nefarious foreign actors. I mean, it just goes to show, A) Obviously, they're checked out before the holidays, and they know that they're leaving office. And so, I believe that they're not really interested in finding out what's happening, and it's the unfortunate truth of what happens in Washington, especially when there's a new incoming administration.

(Make sure you take those partisan shots, Rep. Luna! I know, you just can't help yourself. I prefer the Senate on the UFO/UAP story because they usually try to stick to the matter at hand and avoid childish comments like that.)

Luna: "But to be clear, you know, what we're seeing right now happening, not just in the drone sphere, but I think on the topic of UAPs, is...you're right, there has been a change in technology. And also, with the fact that people can now record, you have devices, they can't really hide it anymore."

(If it's a true UAP (some sort of advanced tech or intelligence), we've seen that they can hide or at least be very stealthy whenever they choose.)

Luna: "So I think the Pentagon and the government as a whole is looking at how to address this to the American people. But there's no doubt in my mind that Representative Van Drew was telling the truth."

(Maybe he was lied to by his sources for whatever reason?)

Luna: "It's very likely that these are drones from a foreign adversary, and if you don't believe that the U.S. government would cover something up, just look at how they responded with the Chinese spy balloon."

(Van Drew is just like Luna in that he's a Trump sycophant, so it doesn't surprise me that she defended him. Sad.

IMO, these drones are not the work of a foreign adversary such as Iran. I think that's unlikely. If just one fell out of the sky, the jig would be up.)

Cuomo: "A lot of these drones, like the ones we're showing right now, you see navigation lights on them. You see a red and a green. You know this from boating. Aircraft have the same thing that boats do. They have a red and a green. So, it's not like they're from some outer atmosphere."

(If they're foreign adversarial, why would they put red and green lights on their super-secret spy drones? Makes no sense. It's not as they're worried about getting a ticket for improper navigation lighting. Same goes for if it's a non-state actor. Also, Dr. Colm Kelleher, who was the program manager at BAASS when the AAWSAP UFO/paranormal program was running, has talked about the phenomenon engaging in mimicry of our technology. I know people don't like to hear it but we shouldn't rule out the possibility that a non-human intelligence can mimic our conventional tech, green and red navigation lights included. I am NOT saying that's what's going on in Jersey but it should be left on the table as an option . Why would "they" do such a thing? I'm going to lose a lot of people with this excerpt, but I like what John Keel wrote in Operation Trojan Horse (OTH):

~~~Begin OTH Excerpt~~~

"What exactly is the paraphysical hypothesis? It is the central theme of this book. It can best be summarized by the remarks of RAF Air Marshal Sir Victor Goddard, KCB, CBE, MA, a very high-ranking member of the British government. On May 3, 1969, he gave a public lecture at Caxton Hall in London, in which he cited these main points: 'That while it may be that some operators of UFOs are normally the paraphysical denizens of a planet other than Earth, there is no logical need for this to be so. For, if the materiality of UFOs is paraphysical (and consequently normally invisible), UFOs could more plausibly be creations of an invisible world coincident with the space of our physical Earth planet than creations in the paraphysical realms of any other physical planet in the solar system… Given that real UFOs are paraphysical, capable of reflecting light like ghosts; and given also that (according to many observers) they remain visible as they change position at ultra-high speeds from one point to another, it follows that those that remain visible in transition do not dematerialize for that swift transition, and therefore, their mass must be of a diaphanous (very diffuse) nature, and their substance relatively etheric… The observed validity of this supports the paraphysical assertion and makes the likelihood of UFOs being Earth-created greater than the likelihood of their creation on another planet… The astral world of illusion, which (on psychical evidence) is greatly inhabited by illusion-prone spirits, is well known for its multifarious imaginative activities and exhortations.

"Seemingly some of its denizens are eager to exemplify principalities and powers. Others pronounce upon morality, spirituality, Deity, etc. All of these astral exponents who invoke human consciousness may be sincere, but many of their theses may be framed to propagate some special phantasm, perhaps of an earlier incarnation, or to indulge an inveterate and continuing technological urge toward materialistic progress, or simply to astonish and disturb the gullible for the devil of it.'

"Sir Victor’s remarks are, admittedly, even harder to believe than the claims of the various UFO cults. If you are not familiar with the massive, well-documented occult and religious literature, his words may be incomprehensible to you. In essence, he means that the UFO phenomenon is actually a staggering cosmic put-on: a joke perpetrated by invisible entities who have always delighted in frightening, confusing and misleading the human race. The activities of these entities have been carefully recorded throughout history, and we will be leaning heavily on those historical records in this book."

~~~End OTH Excerpt~~~

(Is a NHI trying to f**k with us by appearing as drones? Or, is it just drones and misidentifications? I'll go with the latter, for now.)

@ChrisKMellon: "I believe there are more [cases like what's happening in New Jersey]. I think it's important for people to understand that this has been going on since at least 2017, which is to say these smaller, brightly-lit, drone-like vehicles violating restricted U.S. military airspace in sensitive areas around nuclear power facilities, nuclear weapons storage facilities. A year ago today, roughly, Langley Air Force Base was taken offline by drones, and that continued for...that was exactly a year ago this month. And that was about a year after there was a similar sort of pattern in the western United States for several months near some of our ICBM fields. So it's troubling that after all this time, we still haven't captured any of these things, we still haven't brought 'em down."

(If we really haven't brought down any of these objects or at least had one fall out of the sky, I think that suggests highly-advanced tech that no known nation on this planet possesses, or...maybe a non-human intelligence.)

Cuomo: "Do we know that [we haven't brought any down]?"

Mellon: "We still don't know where they're coming from. We are really in a position of ignorance here, and hopefully, this will, maybe, at long last, after all these prior events and the Chinese balloon, get some people to take a hard look at: What do we need to do to get our hands on one of these things so we can get to the bottom of this?"

Cuomo: "Chris, you know better than I do, but I don't know that they haven't gotten any of them. I would read it another way, just as somebody who has been in the business of deception detection for 25 years: That calmness of them being not concerned about it is usually a function of having information."

(Or, our public officials are trying to appear calm because they really have no clue what these objects are and don't want to panic the masses.)

Cuomo: "SUV-sized drones? I can't find those on the commercial market, I've been looking for days. How do you explain that part? You think people just get the size wrong, Ryan?"

Ryan Graves - @uncertainvector: "Well, you know, there always is some uncertainty when it comes to judging a moving object in the sky, especially at night, and especially as a single source of light. But these things appear to be close enough to the ground where I think I have pretty high confidence in the size predictions that they're estimating, give or take 20%. But you know, these sizes and these types of behaviors are something that we've seen, and we've talked about, Chris, over the years, starting in Virginia Beach, working its way further north into the Langley area and perhaps now into New Jersey. I don't think we can conclusively say that they're inherently linked, necessarily, but with the mixed messages that we're getting between the legislative branch and between the executive branch, it really feels like the Biden administration is gaslighting us on the seriousness of this issue."

Mellon: "I think it's important to understand, you were talking about maybe we have got our hands on some of these, maybe we do know what they are. I've been in touch with several administration officials today, and law enforcement officials who are involved in this case, and I hear all of them say, 'We have no idea where these things are coming from or what they are.' And that's an astonishing revelation, after all this time. And when you look at what's happening in the Ukraine and the power that drones can wield and the damage they can inflict, we absolutely should be very concerned that so many of these things are flying around, seemingly without any constraint, and none of our anti-drone systems have been working."

Luna: "I think that, in general, once President Trump gets back in, I think that they need to, via executive order, and then also have a talk probably with Joint Chiefs, that if you have something of this size and magnitude that's going into restricted airspace, it should be an automatic shoot down notice. Meaning that, you know, there is no questions asked. You go and you get it."

(Trump won't be inaugurated until January 20th, 2025 and we already have @SenGillibrand trying to make it easier for our folks to bring these down. Why didn't you mention her? Oh, she's an evil Democrat!

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Via @MattLaslo on 11/19/2024...

New Gillibrand bill gives Pentagon authority to shoot down UAPs, drones on US soil “'It's over the base — if it's over a sensitive site, I want to create authority for them to take down,' Gillibrand says. 'An object that doesn't do anything, it's not showing hostile intent but it's a huge national security breach, and so we want to update the law to say this is a huge national security breach and we may take them down on that basis alone. They don't have to shoot at you. They don't have to drop a chemical weapon. They don't have to drop a nuclear weapon. You could just take them down, because they are clearly spying.'"

Source:

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Luna: "And I think part of the issues that we saw with what happened with the Chinese spy balloon that traversed, literally, the United States, and then, you know, there was rumors that it was collecting information, all of that. The point is, is that it should have been taken down day one, they should not have allowed that to occur. So I think that's the first part.

"The second part is, though, from a government perspective, is, you know, we keep funding the DOD, we keep funding studies and programs, but we really need to focus on what we can do to come up with radar systems that can detect this."

(Pretty sure our radar systems can detect drones IF that's what these are. The filters just need to be at the right setting.)

Luna: "Because, frankly, I think we're used to more of a an ancient way of warfare, and that, you know, we're looking at picking up large aircraft versus some of these drones that might be smaller, and also, too, might be flying at lower air spaces. So, I mean, it's going to be a lot to unpack there, but I do think it's ridiculous that they're not shooting these things down, or at least trying to capture them to study them, and that they would gaslight Americans. You can clearly see that that's a drone, so to say otherwise is just...it's a farce."

(The videos have NOT been clear, and it's not ridiculous that they're not shooting them down over residential areas. Also, once again, what are the rules of engagement (ROE)? There's a reason @SenGillibrand wants to change the ROE so it's easier for these objects to be shot down.

Cuomo closed with his trusty Little Green Men line...)

Cuomo: "Let's just be clear: I'm not talking about little green men in a box, in a basement, okay? If that exists, great, great to see it. This is about transparency of what they know. I'm talking about little green and red lights in the sky, okay? Somebody put those on there. That was a commercially-assembled vehicle that's up there. Where are the answers?"

(Was it commercially assembled? I'm not so sure. Again: See Keel for see out-of-the-box ideas.)

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