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run ⬡ the ⬡ juels Verified account @nullpackets
yes. welcome to the real world. where only assholes would build their business on immutable contracts that could be killed based on the whims of cypherpunks preaching immutability up until it no longer suits their needs.

fuck these people.
Dankrad Feist Verified account @dankrad 3d
Never ever break an existing contract is not workable. It would mean you cannot change the gas schedule.

You also cannot deprecate signature schemes which we will most likely bave to do in the future.

Instead, we should be clear what kinds of contracts will not break. If you rely on gas schedule or state commitment, for example, you can't expect your contract to work forever and it needs to be upgradable or its users need to be aware that they have to exit under some circumstances.
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run ⬡ the ⬡ juels Verified account @nullpackets
I love the smell of a blockchain yelling at another blockchain in the morning.

smells like.... victory
Paul Sztorc Verified account @Truthcoin 2d
Yes, congratulations - you're about the 5000th person to make this Wrong comment

Now let me explain (yet again) why it is wrong -- below ...

The Theranos scam worked the same way that lightning works:

Theranos took their board of directors on a tour of the lab. That's you. You come in, do the finger prick, put it in the machine, and then you are taken away on a "tour". As soon as you were out of the room, laboratory technicians came in, took the fingerstick blood out of the machine, took it away to a different room, diluted it with water, and did the traditional blood tests using traditional Siemens machines (ie a competitor). They then got the results, and printed them out, and put them in the original room with the Theranos machine, so that when the you return to the room it looks like the Thermos machine tested your blood.

In the lightning metaphor, this is:

- custodial lightning
- managed lightning
- submarine swaps

All of which **rely critically** on non-Lightning elements to survive. If these elements go away, the "Lightning" software is useless.

Tyler Schultz was a lab tech at Theranos who worked in validation. He knew, firsthand, that the machines couldn't possibly work. (That's me in the lightning analogy.) Tyler also had a grandfather on the Thermos board, with (in theory) the power to challenge / fire / remove Elizabeth Homes.

So Tyler went to his grandfather to warn him it was all a scam.

And the grandfather said?

"I used it yesterday! I know firsthand that it works!"

But that is false - you do not use lightning everyday. You are just being duped by a fraud. And by groupthink, wishful thinking, etc.

Same as Theranos.
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