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New @greenpillnet special season out now! 🌐
The first episode kicks off a new Greenpill mini-series on Economic Media. We’re exploring how protocols, ledgers, AI agents and computational systems are becoming the media through which economic coordination is recorded, interpreted and governed.
This guest season is by @econaut6 , Jorge López, and Jonathan Beller of the @ecospaceagency. They are exploring what changes if the economy is itself a medium: how screens and platforms turned meaning-making into value extraction, why accounting has a grammar of its own, and why blockchain distributed computation without distributing economic agency.
Who gets to define an asset, recognize a contribution or change a network's rules, and what would it take for care, community priorities and long-excluded people to count?
Along the way they discuss whether the economy is a medium at all, or an ecology of media, and close on why the series is a laboratory: an experimental, interdisciplinary space for building economic literacy and new practices.
Episode Timestamps
00:00 – Introducing the Economic Media Laboratory and its hosts
01:02 – Post-AGI economics
02:47 – What if the economy is a medium?
03:58 – Jonathan Beller: from industrial labor to attention and screen-based extraction
05:20 – Jorge López: technology ownership, authority, and economic power
07:05 – Technology, social struggle, and the extraction of everyday life
10:30 – Computational networks, expressive fluency, and the distribution of power
12:03 – LLMs make programmability accessible to more people
14:03 – AI, digital colonialism, and contested technological futures
15:49 – AI capabilities versus economic intelligence: what economic media make possible
18:23 – Meaning-making and the hidden economic protocol layer
20:02 – Accounting and media: how grammars organize meaning
23:00 – Economic literacy and the asymmetry between users and corporations
24:47 – Accounting as a network of records and mutually recognized changes
26:01 – Accounting's syntax, semantics, and unexplored expressivity
27:59 – From shared economic memory to capitalism's growth rule
31:51 – Mapping capital's source code: intervention, extraction, and economic rule-making
34:46 – Paper-era constraints and the compression of value into money
37:56 – Accounting's efficiency, historical violence, and excluded realities
40:15 – From bookkeeping to blockchain: what changed and what persisted
43:08 – Bitcoin's limited expressivity, capital markets, and social goals
47:52 – Distributed computation versus distributed economic protocols
48:50 – Currencies as bets on futures: funding alternative possibilities
50:28 – What does economic agency mean?
52:26 – Redefining assets and recognizing care and plural values
54:05 – Social media rewards and control over what a network recognizes
58:35 – A disagreement: economy as a medium or a media ecology?
01:00:12 – Changing economic agents, events, resources, and their relations
01:02:22 – Recognition, sovereignty, and communities defining their own value
01:04:18 – Why a laboratory: experimentation, practices, and economic literacy
01:07:14 – Xerox PARC as a model for exploring a new medium
01:08:59 – Interdisciplinary inquiry and listening beyond disciplinary biases
01:10:16 – Disagreement, partial knowledge, and the fields needed for future inquiry
01:14:16 – Translation into code, economic literacy, and agency from the edges
01:15:16 – Closing and continuing in episode two
The first episode kicks off a new Greenpill mini-series on Economic Media. We’re exploring how protocols, ledgers, AI agents and computational systems are becoming the media through which economic coordination is recorded, interpreted and governed.
This guest season is by @econaut6 , Jorge López, and Jonathan Beller of the @ecospaceagency. They are exploring what changes if the economy is itself a medium: how screens and platforms turned meaning-making into value extraction, why accounting has a grammar of its own, and why blockchain distributed computation without distributing economic agency.
Who gets to define an asset, recognize a contribution or change a network's rules, and what would it take for care, community priorities and long-excluded people to count?
Along the way they discuss whether the economy is a medium at all, or an ecology of media, and close on why the series is a laboratory: an experimental, interdisciplinary space for building economic literacy and new practices.
Episode Timestamps
00:00 – Introducing the Economic Media Laboratory and its hosts
01:02 – Post-AGI economics
02:47 – What if the economy is a medium?
03:58 – Jonathan Beller: from industrial labor to attention and screen-based extraction
05:20 – Jorge López: technology ownership, authority, and economic power
07:05 – Technology, social struggle, and the extraction of everyday life
10:30 – Computational networks, expressive fluency, and the distribution of power
12:03 – LLMs make programmability accessible to more people
14:03 – AI, digital colonialism, and contested technological futures
15:49 – AI capabilities versus economic intelligence: what economic media make possible
18:23 – Meaning-making and the hidden economic protocol layer
20:02 – Accounting and media: how grammars organize meaning
23:00 – Economic literacy and the asymmetry between users and corporations
24:47 – Accounting as a network of records and mutually recognized changes
26:01 – Accounting's syntax, semantics, and unexplored expressivity
27:59 – From shared economic memory to capitalism's growth rule
31:51 – Mapping capital's source code: intervention, extraction, and economic rule-making
34:46 – Paper-era constraints and the compression of value into money
37:56 – Accounting's efficiency, historical violence, and excluded realities
40:15 – From bookkeeping to blockchain: what changed and what persisted
43:08 – Bitcoin's limited expressivity, capital markets, and social goals
47:52 – Distributed computation versus distributed economic protocols
48:50 – Currencies as bets on futures: funding alternative possibilities
50:28 – What does economic agency mean?
52:26 – Redefining assets and recognizing care and plural values
54:05 – Social media rewards and control over what a network recognizes
58:35 – A disagreement: economy as a medium or a media ecology?
01:00:12 – Changing economic agents, events, resources, and their relations
01:02:22 – Recognition, sovereignty, and communities defining their own value
01:04:18 – Why a laboratory: experimentation, practices, and economic literacy
01:07:14 – Xerox PARC as a model for exploring a new medium
01:08:59 – Interdisciplinary inquiry and listening beyond disciplinary biases
01:10:16 – Disagreement, partial knowledge, and the fields needed for future inquiry
01:14:16 – Translation into code, economic literacy, and agency from the edges
01:15:16 – Closing and continuing in episode two
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